Wednesday, July 29, 2009

Somber moods

Why is our collective mood so somber (or is it)? I feel depressed. I don’t think this is because I wanted another bachelor to be chosen. I don’t believe that Jillian made the wrong choice for her. So why is this all so disappointing?

There are few reasons for me. I feel awful for Reid, of course. He was set up to take not one, but two falls. It’s hard to know what roles Jillian on the one side and the producers on the other played in this fiasco. It’s clear that Reid was hurt badly and unnecessarily so. Jillian rejected him the first time for his failure to say the right words. When he returned and said those words, she rejected him for a statute of limitations violation. In explaining her rejections, she twice dismissed their love as merely “fun”.

Assuming that Jillian was free to make the decisions she made, I see two possible explanations for all of this. One possibility is that she decided on Ed before she turned away Reid and then Kiptyn. In that case, the rejection of those two was preordained and there was little either could have done to change that outcome. The problem with this scenario is that it would mean that Jillian misused and mislead both men. Could she be capable of trying to force Reid to say he loved her, knowing that she would still send him packing? Could she allow herself such a romantic and highly physical date with Kiptyn if she was in love with another man but not him?

The explanation that makes more sense to me is that she had fallen in love with all three of them one way or another and had not made up her mind between them before Hawaii. In the ATFR Reid wanted so badly to know if Jillian would have picked him if he had said the “L” word on cue. She was clearly torn in her answer. She could not confess that she may have chosen the wrong man and so she reverted to explanation one. But none of us were convinced of this. We come away with the dread feeling that she made her final decision based on criteria that had nothing to do with love.

Another reason that I’m depressed is that Jillian made a decision that was diametric to what she said she wanted. I tend to take people at their word. I get burned by this time and again and somehow I never learn. I was foolishly surprised by her decision. If she told us that she wanted to be swept off her feet by a decisive, strong-willed man who would take care of her for the rest of her life, I would say that Ed was her man. I would have been thrilled for her. Reid would be entirely mismatched with such a woman. Do any of us believe that Ed is her best friend? That he makes her laugh regularly? That his main priority in life is true love? Can even Ed fans claim that he wants to be part of a team?

Jillian seems torn. I think she does want what she claimed. I don’t think she expected that this might require risk and sacrifice. Everyone in the world wants true love, happiness and fulfillment. How many are willing to risk comfort, security and the possibility of being hurt to achieve those ends? Jillian could have striven for something beyond her dreams, if she was willing to risk it.

I fear there may come a day in which Jillian will realize that she made a mistake of such magnitude that few of us will ever have the opportunity to make it. She appeared to have been given the option of true love. If she did reject this in favor of security then this show is tantamount to a Greek tragedy.


Jim

13 comments:

  1. Jim,

    Once again a very thoughtful post. I agree with you, that perhaps Jillian wasn't as in touch with her true desires as she thought. On the Message Boards some people speculate that there is a self esteem issue, where she let go of the two people that seemed too "perfect" for her to go with someone that essentially left her. I think there may be a nugget of truth to that.

    I do think Jillian was in love with Ed after Spain. I think the rest of the dates were just because she had to. I think she let go of Reid because she realized she did truly have feelings for him, but knew her heart was with Ed and so let him go first because it would have only been harder at the FRC. It begs the question, how can you be intimate with others if you love one person? I can't answer that! I have no idea! However I studied it very closely when she went on her one on one with Kiptyn at the last Hawaii date. I noticed there was a level of coolness she tried to hide with him, that was not there with Ed. I was pretty sure she had already picked Ed so that is why I studied it. However that doesn't excuse the paddleboard cuddling and overnight things.

    I know that I feel really badly for Reid for his double rejection. I also feel, maybe, worse for Kiptyn because HIS rejection was overshadowed by Reid's! Kiptyn is being treated like the F3. He isn't in the limelight at all, but maybe he likes it that way! Out of the two guys I think Reid is probably being pursued as the next bachelor by ABC. I don't think he will do it, but I noticed he enjoyed the attention of the women in the audience so who knows? I don't think he is a very eloquent speaker about his emotions though... something he will have to improve if he is a bachelor! He speaks from his heart, and that means sometimes we stumble with the words, but it means we are GENUINE! When you are the bachelor you have to spoon feed the requisite phrases to keep everyone guessing. I don't think he'd be very good at it. I actually don't think anyone from Jillians season would be very good at it (well maybe Wes...)

    Ok my long babble... Love this new blog!

    Koala/Heidi

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  2. Well Jim -- I think its the balloon affect (for me at least). I watched and enjoyed a lot of this season - absolutely LOVED getting involved with everyone on the Musings posts. Lots of fun and banter - with a few jerks thrown in to just make us realize not everyone on this planet thinks like we do. We watched the balloon be blown up and now the air is all gone - just like that.

    I admit to smiling a lot on Monday and again on Tuesday watching Ed and Jillian together. As I have stated before Ed reminds me of my husband - he drops kisses on Jillian the same way my husband kisses me and I know how thrilling that is - and I feel so cherished when he does it (daily). That said I adored - absolutely adored Reid as a person. You could sense his own lack of self esteem and maybe Jillian sensed that also. As humans we are attracted to other people that have attributes we wish we had and shy away from people that have the attributes we recognized and dislike in ourselves.

    What I do know is there is a huge beautiful world out there full of love and we are here to discover and share in the delights. I look forward to sharing personal reflections and some great discussions on some of the best romantic shows the entertainment world has produced. Its been years since I saw Princess Bride and all the discussion earlier has made me want to see it again.

    I admire Heidi's comment on Marianna's post about how she recognized that a relationship was heading down a dead end - why prolong it. Very good for you Heidi!!! Just prior to meeting my husband (online) I was in a year long relationship -- commuting between two coasts. I loved him dearly, he was so different from anyone I had ever met (Italian from the Bronx). He was kind, sweet, hard working, extremely funny yet very sad. It broke my heart to stop our relationship but it was time - and little did I know that within a couple of weeks my tall, dark, handsome darling would enter my life. I almost refused to even meet him because he was a bit younger than me (I had set my limit on 5 years younger - he was a whole 6 years younger LOL). Well the rest is history.

    Honestly Jim - not somber just trying to cope with real life myself - just this past week I had three funerals in four days - so I was emotionally drained - I sort of needed the fairy tale ending on Monday night - and again here's hoping it wasn't just a mass produced ending and something real that will last for both of them.

    Joanne aka jayjay

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  3. Hi Heidi,

    I'm sure I can speak for everyone to say that we are so glad you joined us!

    I enjoy and agree with your "long babble" of shrewd thoughts. There are contradictions between our comments, and yet I still agree. I think part of the reason that viewers are so unsettled is that Jillian is very conflicted. Her head and her heart seem to be pulling her in different directions. We are getting powerful but mixed messages and we don't know what to think.

    I noticed the pattern where Jillian always sent away the men who committed themselves to her. She sent Jake and Michael away once they committed. When Mark expressed his deep affection for her, she sent him away and kept Mike, who expressed no emotions at all. At the time, I figured she sent these men away because she had already ruled them out. I thought it a kindness to part with them before they became even more attached to her. Now, I'm not so sure.

    I agree that she fell in love with Ed in Spain. However, she barely knew him at that stage. He was gone for most of time before that. The major source of attraction appears to be that he left her for work and then came back. That had an enormous affect on her. Most viewers saw Ed's departure and return as evidence that he was not trustworthy. She seemed to have the opposite reaction. It's as though he got leaving her "out of his system". The others hadn't left her yet so they might still do so. Marianna believes that if Reid had told Jillian he loved her in Maui, he would be with her now. I would like to believe that but I'm not so sure. I agree with Marianna that her choice rested largely on who she thought would most likely marry her within a year. On that basis alone, perhaps Ed is a better prospect than Reid. He certainly is a better prospect than Kiptyn.

    It's clear that Jillian is in love with Reid with a connection I don't think Ed is capable of reaching. This is heartbreaking because we all see it. It's more heartbreaking because ABC scrambled up the editing to make the Jillian-Reid love affair the star of the show. They made Ed look like a bumbling sidekick. The emphasis on the FS dysfunction (now fully confirmed by both Jillian and Ed) was entirely gratuitous. We want to be happy for Ed and Jillian but ABC keeps blocking the way.

    I was really sad for the happy couple on the ATFR. Reid was far and away the star. The love that still exists between Jillian and Reid was powerful and engaging. Ed's arrival felt like an afterthought. It had the same level of audience interest as the arrival of Melissa beforehand.

    Jillian wanted a fairytale ending but sabotaged herself. She wanted to be the focus, the center of attention but she is shunted off in the corner. It was the Reid show through and through and since the star was brutalized the audience is angry. I also do not want Reid to suffer through another of these fiascos as the next bachelor. But ABC desperately needs him to do it. It's the only way they can redeem themselves from the tragedy they wrote. I don't want Reid to be in it, but if he is, I'll watch the show religiously. Their viewership will likely double over what it would be with Jake or Kiptyn. The pressure and incentives ABC is heaping on Reid must be intense! We need to save him from this horror so he can meet Leen!

    Jim

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  4. Hi Joanne,

    You definitely put this into a larger perspective. This pulls me back to earth somewhat. With several among us suffering grief over recent deaths, several widows reminded of the love they lost, the choice that Jillian made is really not that important in the grand scheme. Hopefully they will be happy. I feel like ABC has made that harder, but ultimately it’s up to them. We hardly know Ed and Jillian seems unfathomable. We know Reid all too well, which is part of the sadness of the whole thing.

    I admire and commend you for your ability to look for beauty in the world in the midst of difficulty and sadness. I wish I had that ability; it would make life so much easier. No matter how things turned out in the show, we all found each other and now have friends we never imagined we could have just months before. This show did prove to us that true love is possible, even if rare. It inspired many single people such as Heidi and Leen to follow your example to hold out to a greater standard of love. Why should we merely settle in life when people like Reid are out there? Granted, there aren't many Reids out there, but they exist. I'm so happy that you found your Reid!

    I also look forward to talking about true romance in its many forms. There are few things I enjoy more. There are not many great romances out there but each has so much talk about and relate to, the conversations will never go silent. These deserve multiple viewings or readings.

    After all of the Bachelorette buzz has died down, we can all watch The Princess Bride and discuss that. It's actually based on a book written by the screenwriter William Goldman. The book is worth reading too; it's hilarious. I read the book years before and then never saw the movie in a theater because it was pulled so quickly. I would love to see it on a big screen someday.

    Joanne, we also stand by you in your grief and the families of all those who departed.

    Jim

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  5. Jillian's Jilting Journey

    What a ride it's been! I am still rocked by the whole experience. Not just the steep uphill grades, twists and turns, sidetracks and tunnels of deception, but to my addiction to it all and the realization that if seems to affect millions of others equally. I am fascinated by how we all see and interpret things differently and are attracted to and identify with the set of characters presented. We are willing to suspend our disbelief that anyone can find true love on such a show and we put up with all the manipulations and subscribe to the whole concept, ridiculous rules and all.

    It is fairy tale material - 30 suitors competing for the hand of the Princess. But this is no jousting match where the winner triumphs due to his ability to unseat his competitors based on his physical and athletic skills. No, he must capture the heroine's heart, battling for her attention and affections, all the while fending off personal insecurities and the green eyed monster of jealousy.

    Personally, my early favorite fellow was Juan, who we didn't really get much chance to know. He did seem to be the only true gentleman in the bunch and that is why so many of the other guys were threatened by him. I never really warmed up to Jake and hope he's not the next Bachelor. I was rooting for Jesse, thought he was yummy too, but lost some respect for him at the MTA. Michael surprised me and I think he will make a fine catch, when he's ready. It really was a shame we had to endure more Wes, instead of getting more time with either Jesse or Michael.

    I do think Jillian had 3 pretty terrific guys to choose from in the end. Here's my take on her choices.

    Reid: My condolences to all his fans. Perhaps you can take some comfort in knowing that he's still available. He will likely need a while to recover, after such a bold and daring move, especially as it seems so uncharacteristic of him. Yes, I believe she had genuine feelings for him and hated hurting him. I think she let him go before Kipton, possibly because she didn't think Kip would be heartbroken, therefore less harmful to string along. I also think she was just plain more physically attracted to Ed, her ideal 'type', tall, dark and handsome, from the get go. And yes, Reid's inability to commit was no doubt a factor. Not that I blame him for not wanting to declare love, when she is forbidden to reveal her feelings and he knows she is equally involved with two other men. I think it was a mistake on behalf of the producers to let him come back, but we know it was all about ratings etc. I think it was a genuine shock to Jill and I felt for her having to jilt two men in such short order. It was painful to watch.

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  6. Part 2

    Kipton: What a class act. I think he was the most realistic and mature of the final three. I cried for him, because I honestly think he was in love by the end of it and really did want her to say yes and come to San Diego and make a life together. I think the women in her family may have preferred him, but Fast Eddy impressed her Dad and Jillian is definitely a Daddy's girl. I have no idea how she could have spent that last date with him without giving him some clue that she was in love with Ed. She didn't seem particularly sorry about it either. I agree she had more feelings for Reid it seems.

    Ed: I think it was his confidence that won her over, along with his sense of humor. He made her laugh, (as did Reid), and I see them as seeing the world in similar ways. I do think for Ed it was more about winning and he did approach it like a business proposition, but I think Jillian admired his ambition and work ethic. He sold her on his conviction that they would 'work' together. I think he was the best match for her and they are equally immature.

    I do hope she finds lasting happiness, even though I find I don't like her so much as I did in the beginning.

    Sorry for the long post. I wrote most of it last night but was interrupted and just got back and read all you recent comments.
    I agree it was a bit of a let down to say the least.

    Ann

    Here's a few links you may not have seen:

    http://abc.go.com/primetime/bachelorette/index?pn=mb&cat=197880&tid=699484

    http://www.tvguide.com/News/Bachelorette-Reid-Kiptyn-1008567.aspx?rss=news&partnerid=spi&profileid=05

    http://www.tvguide.com/News/Bachelorettes-Chris-Harrison-1008570.aspx

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  7. Jim,

    Thank you for your post. It was very insighful.

    I do believe that Jillian picked the one who was right on paper, but not what she truly wanted based on her own description. I'm not even sure she realizes it yet, but someday, when she wakes up and realizes that she's not next to her best friend who makes her laugh, it will set in. I'm not wishing that on her - believe me, but I fear that's what is in her future. I feel like I watched someone squander such an incredible opportunity and that is a somber realization. I suppose we all watch this show because we want to see the happy ending. Despite all of Jillian and Ed's statements to the contrary, I just don't feel like that's what we got and it is disheartening.

    Kelly

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  8. Jim,

    What a lovely post. You are some kind of rare and wonderful breed of man and I'm so glad you and Nadya found each other.

    M.

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  9. Hi Ann,

    As decogirl, do you have any connection to Art Deco? I'm a big fan of Art Deco and Art Nouveau.

    Your entry deserves to be elevated to a post of its own! Please feel free to start your own thread/posts.

    I, too, am fascinated by the many often incompatible ways that different people perceive the same things. I just added a comment to LuvB2's post about that side of things. I'm also fascinated that there are so many in the Musings clan that share most of my perspectives. I'm not used to that! More important, even where we completely disagree, we do so intelligently and respectfully. I'm so glad we all found each other!

    Jim

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  10. Hi Jim,

    I have been so busy the last few days, that I have only now just gotten back to this blog. Tomorrow or Sat. I am going to catch up with you on a number of things, including a reaction to this post, and to the nice things you wrote to me on the bachbb. In the meantime, you take it easy.


    Your friend,
    gd

    p.s. Hello to Nadya, hope she's doing well

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  11. Joanne - Thank you for your comments! That was really nice to hear! I can see that you very much know exactly what I am talking abut, but how much harder for you as you were together for awhile before you realized it was the end! I tried to explain to him that we both needed to be free for others (he wanted to try to date casually still) so that we could meet that person that, like in your case, might be right around the corner! And you need to be truly available for those REIDS! LOL

    May I also express my condolences on the deaths you have experienced. As Jim said, we are here if you need to vent! I'm so very sorry!

    Jim - Thanks for the warm welcome! I am so excited to be here! I woke up this morning and thought to myself... whoa! I have a new blog I can write on during my downtime at work! Yay!

    Your comments about Reid being the star really got me thinking... you are absolutely right! How interesting that they did it that way. You are right, in a way he needs to be the next bachelor to redeem the show, yet it also seems to be so antithetical to his character! I would LOVE to watch him, however he will need to work with Chris a bit to be able to fully express his feelings. I just checked ABC.com and right now on the survey Reid is leading for next bachelor pick by 35%, with Jake a close second at 29%. I personally think Jake would be a terrible choice simply because he is so empathetic he won't be able to let anyone go! LOL. However I would gladly watch Reid, Kip or Jake.

    Your thoughts on Jillian are provoking. She wanted to be the center of attention, but wasn't. She wasn't during the entire show! First Dave, then Wes, then Ed's drama. She wasn't the star of the Princess story! She was more of the secondary character! I hadn't thought of that but you are very right. I respect that she wasn't a diva like DeAnna but she did lack that confidence.

    K/Heidi

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  12. Hi GD,

    It's good to hear you'll be catching up with these many posts soon. We look forward to your excellent perspective on these matters.

    Jim

    P.S. Nadya is doing well. She's spending a lot of time getting this blog up and running smoothly!

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  13. Hi Koala-Heidi,

    I feel bad for Jillian in the end result didn't really live up to her expectations. I don't mean Ed but her desire to be a fairytale princess really fell short. When her dreams fell apart last season, I assume that the audience was almost entirely behind her. It doesn't feel that way now. It feels like she's playing encore performances to a mostly empty theater.

    Jim

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